discussion on your own. As you say, "The boys from Z1" replied to the post already before you come on here posting this crap about them or what not. Then this turns into a 2 page argument about nothing. I also think the whole thing in questioning is the ECU itself, not the people or person behind it. I think everyones clear argument against the ashspec chip is Ash or Z1 themselves. If people are looking for the best ecu then they need to leave feelings out of it and get what the heck is the best.